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  Why is the GB determined to delete the few enjoyable aspects of being a JW?

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  it seems the gb is trying to give the jws a more modern, friendly image.

  new website, new logo, cartoons for instructing children, literature carts, slimmed-down books and magazines, etc.

  yet on the other hand they delete some of the things many jws enjoy most: the book study in private homes, congregation picnics and large get-togethers, private group watchtower study sessions, colorful socks for men, denim dresses for women etc.

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  I think Giordano nailed it in his post.

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  Did you expect all non-Witnesses to die at Armageddon?

  by Apognophos in

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  2. beliefs

  apologies if this has been asked before, but i couldn't find a thread where the focus was specifically this yes-or-no question.

  reach back in your memories to when you were at the peak of your faith in the religion, and tell me honestly:.

  "did you, personally, believe that non-witnesses would die at armageddon, even if they hadn't gotten to hear the message at all?".

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  It really, really brothered me but I was like jwfacts that it was what we were taught so it had to be true. That is why it brothered me so much doing the pioneer shuffle, and driving around aimlessly and sitting in the car for hours, and hours, and hours while my elder husband was on calls that I was not allowed to join him in becuase I was just a stupid women who COULD NOT KNOW the important elder stuff that was going on. If it truly ment these peopoles lives we needed to tell them not drag our feet and waste time. But I got shot down and ridiculed by most of the JW's that I pioneered with for wanting to truly talk to people, which in turn made me so crazy.

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  Feeling sad over a wasted life in watchtower

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.

  by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.

  but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.

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  I just read this and thought it was an interesting way to look at things. As so many have said we would not be who we are now if we had not gone through the JW expreance. Maybe it did make us stronger, I hope.

  Every experience in your life is being orchestrated to teach you something you need to know to move forward. ~Brian Tracy

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  Feeling sad over a wasted life in watchtower

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.

  by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.

  but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.

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  I can totally relate also. I was in my mid 40's when I woke up. So many wated years that I would love to have back. Pioneering, Bethel, go to where the need was great, etc. Some days it is just hard to not be bitter.

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  Looking Back, Do You Ever Think You Loved Jehovah God?

  by minimus in

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  as a child, i was made to believe that i loved my mom and family and close friends but that i loved no one more than jehovah god.

  did you ever really love him?.

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  I really, really wanted to and told everyone one I did because that was what I was supposed to do right?

  But deep inside He never felt real. It was like I was praying to the air. I prayed my brains out and the only way things changed were when I did something to make them change. I tried and tried to say it was Jehovah who did this or that for me but in reality it was because I worked and did what I could to make this or that happen.

  Like I was raised in the "truth" in a very abusive home. I prayed and prayed and prayed as a child, got on my knees and begged, pleading with Jehovah to help me with my parents so they would love me. To feel like I mattered to someone. I was just a kid of 8,9 years of age. I got nothing. No one stepped in though everyone knew my parents were abusing me. I have been told that now as an adult by the older ones in the hall that they knew. Yet not one did a thing to help me. And Jehovah never used them when He could have.

  So no I never did love Jehovah because he never seemed real.

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  Reading the Watchtower and Awake! is like getting a college education!

  by kairos in

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  2. bible

  anybody remember hearing this?.

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  is that comment in print anywhere?.

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  A elderly sister just said this at the meeting less than two months ago and she totally belives it.

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  What Was Your Opinion of Elder's Wives?

  by minimus in

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  i think that many of them were saints.

  some were bitches and others seemed like they hated their status.

  many wives were very good examples and were more "qualified" than their elder husbands.. .

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  I married an elder. It was beyond horrible, it was pure HELL. I never saw my husband we did not have a marriage as he was alwasys gone. Spent my second year anniversary sitting in the car until 12:00 am and then was told I needed to go over to another elders wives home who HATED ME and I stayed there until 2:00 am with this elders wife pissed off at me for being there. Than my husband and I got into a huge fight on the way home because I had planned a nice evening evening to celebarte our anniversary together which was ruined now but my husband told me that I married an elder and just to get used to sitting in the car forever. We never made up for the lost night of our anniversary it just became another day of the year after that. Found out years latter that my husband had spent the night holding the hand of this old bitty of a sister with another elder. This women knew it was our anniversary and was trying to cause problems in our marriage she admitted it to me. I was just blown away as to WHY??? The people in the hall were so mean.

  Elder's meetings were pure HELL also as I was never invited into any of the clicks of the elders wives. There would always be two to three groups of women huddled together gossiping and when I walked up they would all just stop and stare at me untill I left. They all did things together and I was NEVER included. Than when the elders would come out of their big important meeting this one idiot would say are you elderites ready to leave. I was one of the only wives who worked and sometimes we would not get home until 12:00 or 1:00 in the morning I would be so mad and worked up that I could not get to sleep and then I had to be up at 5:00 for work.

  One time my husband had an major heart attack the morning of the school and service meeting. His first heart attack they had him back up conducting within three days of his getting home from the hospital. My husband always was given the worst assigments that none of the other elders wanted and he was always the school overseer. Well I called the CoBE'w wife on my way to the hosiptal and told her my husband would not be at the meeting that evening as he was having a heart attack. This elder's wife told me "What do you want me to do? I can't help you as I have to go out in service today."

  I told the CO in our first year of marriage that I was totally losing it and he was so ticked off at me and told me that Jehovah needed my husband now I could have my husband in the new system.

  If I could go back I would never stand to be treated the way I was. Plus I could not do anything, my job would have paid for me to take collage class which I could not because I had to set the example, I could not go running because it upset so many in the hall that I was putting my body to such a use. I could as an elders wife I should be using my time in field service not doing something I enjoyed. You name it was I was told it.

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  Warwick Building Project Fluff Stories

  by bruh2012 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking about an article that makes you want to throw-up in your mouth- wt-study jan 15, 2015 the offered themselves willingly.. amazing the psych job of selling your business, moving your entire family, quiting your job to be a "temporary" worker at the new world headquarters!.

  throw your livelyhood away only to get the "feeling" that jehovahs is blessing you!

  i wish there was away to track the psych job during patterson and other major projects of what happened to all the "friends" that sold and got rid of their livelyhood then and where are they now.. did you ever sacrifce it all for a building project only to be left with nothing after your "spiritual high"?.

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  Yes Justnowout I remember one time we had just recived out monthly stipend and at morning worship that day the GB memeber conducting tryed to guilt us all into putting in at least $1.00 to help out some natural disater somewher. I remember the guilt was huge to us at Bethel. The GB who was talking went on and on about how good we had it at Bethel and how we should give even more than the dollar but at the very least we all needed to give at least a dollar.

  A dollar to me at that time was huge as all we had was the stupid stipend and it did not go very far with having to pay for rides to the meetings and buying toothpast, etc that Bethel did not provide. I never gave the dollar but I felt horribly guilty at the time. Now I think what a waste of my life to feel the guilt when I was giving my life to them. It just makes me so mad now that they had the gull to even ask us.

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  Warwick Building Project Fluff Stories

  by bruh2012 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking about an article that makes you want to throw-up in your mouth- wt-study jan 15, 2015 the offered themselves willingly.. amazing the psych job of selling your business, moving your entire family, quiting your job to be a "temporary" worker at the new world headquarters!.

  throw your livelyhood away only to get the "feeling" that jehovahs is blessing you!

  i wish there was away to track the psych job during patterson and other major projects of what happened to all the "friends" that sold and got rid of their livelyhood then and where are they now.. did you ever sacrifce it all for a building project only to be left with nothing after your "spiritual high"?.

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  wallsofjericho

  You wrote "as I get older I have concluded that it's not about a lack of love, it's just that people have their own lives & problems and don't particularly care about yours. Why should they bail you out? Who's bailing them out? No one, they have to deal with all their own problems and if your dumb enough to buy into the WTS hype about all those awesome blessings then you can bless your way back to reality with the rest us."

  I understand some of what you are saying but when you are young and this religon is all you have ever known, than to have someone your age up there conducting the WT and praising what it says. Glorifying what the GB is asking for us to give up everything and saying how great the expreances are and what blessings from Jehovah we would receive if we did what is asked. What are the young ones to think.

  I know, I know, I was stupid and have only myself to blame. I get that now, I was very stupid, because I never really looked at what you were doing yourself. How you were not buying into the hype but I was always taught by ones like you to keep my blinders on and not to look at what other people were doing only what Jehovah wanted me to do and when you are on the stage spouting off while conducting the WT or during the service meeting telling me as a parrot for the GB that I should be doing this and telling me it was coming from Jehovah. How can you not feel you have some skin in the game for causing the ruin of people's lives.

  I know when we were selling off our few possessions we had older ones in the "truth" offer us a dime on a dollar for what we had. We heated our home with wood and we had over six cords of wood we needed to sell as we went to Bethel in December. Cords of wood were going for $125 a cord back than in our area. This one elder knew we needed to sell it but he thought no one would buy it from us so two day, two days mind you before we were leaving he came to us and offered us $ 20.00 a cord. He thought we would just jump on it. I was so mad. We had luckly fortunately already sold it but the look on this elders face was like WHAT!!!!! This thief had not gotten on the wood he needed because he was banking on us just jumping at his kind offer.

  Thoes are the kinds of things that even now, even though I know I was stupid still get to me. Why wallsofjericho are you still in, still misleading people by being there even if you are not an elder or MS you are still supporting it by just being part of it.

  You say they can just bless themselves back to the reality with the rest of us. We did but it sure would have been nice not to have been mislead in the first place and to have been told the honest truth,

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  CANDACE CONTI - What's the current status?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm in a little urgency to know this, so please, if you can help:.

  as far as i understand, this is the sequence of events:.

  a) june 14th 2012 - on a trial by jury, cancace conti wins a civil law case involving child sexual abuse.

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